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Author: | GregG [ Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:34 pm ] |
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Wondering what different options are out there for rounding over the top of the binding, any thoughts pics would be great. It seems obvious to ues a round-over bit, if so what size bit do you use. Thanks, Greg |
Author: | stan thomison [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:39 am ] |
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i don't and haven't worked with anyone that uses a round over bit, but they may be how some do it, I use and those I have worked with use sandpaper and champer(sp early morning) edge only a little, don't want to round to much. getting to round i don't think is what I would do. i am sure know this, but for someone new who may not, don't round at the necke join, you will get seperation |
Author: | GregG [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:44 am ] |
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Yeah, right about the neck area, I'm aware of that, I've done what you mentioned in the past, it just looks like some guys really round over the edge to the point where something other than sandpaper is used, maybe not, just lots of elbow grease. Greg |
Author: | SimonF [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:06 am ] |
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Hi Greg, Your guitar is coming along beautifully. I use a 1/8" rounder over bit in my Ribbecke binding jig. If you do this, you need to mark off where the neck is and stop about a quarter of an inch from this mark - use sandpaper to taper it from a right angle at the neck to flow into the 1/8" roundover. I would decide if this is a look that you want for your guitars. There are very few guitars I would think this looks okay on - my guitars are one of the exceptions just because my body shape, headstock, and bridge work well with the rounded bindings. I would definitely try and glue a small length of binding on a block or something - and then try the roundover bit and see if you think it will go nicely on your guitars. You could also use a 1/16" bit but honestly, you can get that effect in a few seconds with some sandpaper. The 1/8" bit has a drastically different look than the 1/ 16" Peace Out, Simon |
Author: | Dave Anderson [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:11 am ] |
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Yeah Greg I've noticed some builders really round the binding more than others. I just use sandpaper and round it over a little. |
Author: | gozierdt [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:04 am ] |
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Some luthiers I've read about do contour the upper part of the lower bout, where the players arm rests when playing. It could be a simple roundover, but some, I think Robert O'Brian is one, mention an even larger contour, more a smooth-edged facet, to ease that edge. I did that on my son's guitar (still in final build stages). Other than that area, I just gently rounded with sandpaper, as mentioned above. Gene |
Author: | peterm [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:48 am ] |
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Greg, I NEVER use a router to do it.... kinda nerve wrecking and risky! ![]() |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:57 am ] |
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I use a 1/8" round over in my dremel and Stewmac base. I set it at 2/3 depth so that I don't get a full radius. I stop about an inch short of the neck, each side and blen by hand. |
Author: | Rod True [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:23 am ] |
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sandpaper |
Author: | LanceK [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:42 am ] |
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I have always loved this look. ![]() I have no idea how Mark Blanchard does this, by hand or with a jig or tool of some sort, but I sure like it. |
Author: | Rod True [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:15 am ] |
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Ah....Ya! ![]() |
Author: | Kevin Gallagher [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:22 am ] |
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I use a sharp scraper to bring the edge to a chamfer and then make several passes to blend that into both surfaces and finish up by sanding. I do round things a little more than some builders and usually end up about where the Blanchard guitars do. I haven't talked to Mark in a while and the photo made me think of it. I'll have to give him a call or drop him a note to say hello and to wish him a great holiday. Mark's guitars are beautiful and he is a wonderful guy. Regards, Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars |
Author: | MSpencer [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:08 pm ] |
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I use the round over bits from Dremmel on the StewMac Precision base like MichaelP. Dremmel has come out with a pac of micro router bits, I think 4-5 came that do different shapes. I found the one I liked the best and figured out how to adjust it on practice woods before using. I did the rounding through the neck attachment once, what a hassle, do avoid this with the advice the guys are giving above. I just cut a section out and removed the binding that was rounded and replaced with square and then and sanded the blend. Mike |
Author: | Martin Turner [ Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:21 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=peterm] Greg, I NEVER use a router to do it.... kinda nerve wrecking and risky! ![]() Ditto.... |
Author: | Todd Rose [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:46 am ] |
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A greater roundover does feel more comfortable to play - kind of a micro armrest/ribrest. Another way to do this is with a rasp followed by sandpaper. |
Author: | Daniel M [ Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:53 am ] |
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I find it easier to get an even roundover with a file rather than sandpaper. I use a half round file in the waist area, then finish up with fine sandpaper on a small rubber sanding block. |
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